1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 I wonder if we could get a description of what you saw last night. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Okay, well my son saw it first. There's four of us that saw this. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Yes. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:20,000 And we're just really frightened. We were coming off of Avenue I. I made a ride onto Sierra 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Boulevard and I went past that area there. It says 45 mile an hour. 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:33,000 And just when I got onto the part where you can pick up speed, my son said, 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Mom, can aircraft hover? And I said, Michael, be quiet, you know, and stop asking me two questions. 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 And then I saw him just staring. He was just staring. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,000 And so I looked up and I saw this cluster of lights. 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,000 And they were just a bunch of them. And I thought it was like six helicopters, 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Army helicopters just hovering over the field over there. 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 And then there was this one white light to the right. 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Yes. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,000 And it was coming around it, like circling around these little lights all over the place. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 I immediately pulled over. There was traffic in front of me behind me. 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I immediately pulled over to the right shoulder of the road. 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 I left my lights on. I left the vehicle running. The radio was on. 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,000 And as soon as I pulled over, this object came straight at us, straight to our vehicle. 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It was huge. This thing was huge. It was black, huge. 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 It had these triangle lights on it. And it started just, it just come floating over. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 It didn't come fast. It came across the road. It floated. 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 It kind of turned to where all you could see then was these triangle lights. 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 All these little tiny lights kind of weren't there anymore. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 And it was just black. The ceremony was huge. It floated over to us. 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:46,000 It started coming down towards the front, top of the van, and kind of tilted. 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Yes. 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 And then my kids were screaming. They were trying to get out of the van. 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,000 They wanted out. I just bolted out of there. I thought this thing was going to land on me. 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 And I mean, we were there long enough that we all got a good look and I could count the lights. 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 It was, we were there for at least a half a minute before I left. 31 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 There was traffic in front of me, behind me. No one slowed down. No one sped up. 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,000 No one else pulled over. I don't know what we saw, but it was one craft. 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,000 And we were hysterical. I had each kid explain to me what they saw before I explained to them. 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:26,000 And everybody's story was pretty much the same. What we saw, it was kind of like a triangle oval shaped thing. 35 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Okay. 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:34,000 It was black. It was huge. And the lights were like in a triangle, like three lights in each triangle. 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Like the point of it, like the corners of it, or the, it wasn't really pointed. 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:47,000 I don't know how to explain it. And then my daughter said, see, she got, stuck her head up to where she could see it as I took off. 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,000 She said she saw it like it turned upwards and she saw three red lights on one side and three red lights on the other. 40 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 So I didn't see these red lights that she's talking about. 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Okay. 42 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Now, speaking of the size, do you have any estimate of feet or yards as to how big the object was? 43 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Well, see, when I got to the gate, the guys at the gate, I reported to them because I was really scared. 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:15,000 And they thought like the B2. And I said, it had, no, you know, I was thinking it had to be like four B2s or more. 45 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 It was huge. 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Okay. 47 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:27,000 And it didn't fly. You know, it was just there. It was floating. It didn't move fast at all. It just hovered, just floated. 48 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 But at any time did you get out of the car? 49 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 No, we didn't. I just took off. 50 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And as soon as I took off, my daughter opened that side window and stuck her head up because she wanted to get a picture. 51 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 And it just disappeared. There was nothing. There was no lights, nothing. And it never made a noise. 52 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 We didn't feel vibration in the car. Nothing. 53 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Okay. 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 It wasn't making loud engine sounds. Nothing. 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,000 But it was coming. I felt like I saw it and it knew I saw it. 56 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,000 I had this feeling like it saw me watching it and it came over to me. 57 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 You know, like it came to me like, oh, there's someone stop. Let's go talk. 58 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Okay. 59 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Now, do you have any estimate as to how close it got to you? 60 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:20,000 It seems like it was like if I had a telephone pole sitting on my hood of my car, it was at least that tall, if not maybe another half of higher. 61 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Okay. 62 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I remember I was looking out the front of the glass and it was reflected. The three lights that was closest after it started tilting, it kind of tilted. 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:38,000 And those three triangle lights were just glaring on my glasses. I remember that. I remember that real clear. 64 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Did that light reflect on your car at all? Do you remember? 65 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 It seems like the light was coming in the front of the van. 66 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Okay. 67 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:00,000 It seems like it was that close that it was, or maybe it was just my glasses. I don't know. It was just like, I was really looking out. 68 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,000 I wasn't looking down at my feet or at my purse or anything in the car. I was just looking up that, out that windshield. 69 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Okay. 70 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 That thing coming down. And I couldn't believe how quickly it came across the street at us. But it wasn't flying. It was floating. 71 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Okay. 72 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:29,000 It started coming down on us. It didn't keep going or circle around us. It just kept lowering down on us. And then it kind of tilted to where it was at the same like angle as our windshield. 73 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Okay. 74 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,000 But did that object, when it tilted, did it change course or just keep going straight? 75 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 It just stayed there. It just hung there. 76 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 It stopped. 77 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:45,000 No, it was still coming down like it was coming towards us. So I took off. I thought it was going to land on me. I was scared. 78 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Was it, I'm trying to get the altitude at that point. Was that eye level altitude? You were looking straight out the windshield. 79 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,000 No, I was looking up. I was looking up at it. So it was, I don't know, how tall is a night light pole? A telephone pole? 80 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Utility poles? Oh, they usually run around 30 feet. 81 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Well, then it was probably, I wanted to say one and a half of those. It wasn't quite two. I was thinking it was maybe two. 82 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 But now that I think about it, it was really close and it was right there. 83 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Okay. 84 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:25,000 But it wasn't to where I could throw a rock at it or something. You know, it was, it was huge. That's the one thing all of us couldn't get over is how big this thing was. 85 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 And it was just hanging there, just floating. 86 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 In a solid black in color? 87 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Well, it was kind of like, to me it's like the inside of it kind of was like up and down. It was kind of like folded or something. 88 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Okay. 89 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Like, if you took a paper, you know how you make an airplane, paper airplane, you fold it in and out and out. 90 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:52,000 It's kind of like it was almost like crinkly, like that inside maybe. But see what I was seeing was in the dark and I was just seeing light reflecting off of pieces. 91 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 So it looked like light reflecting off of folded something. 92 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Okay. 93 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,000 But the outside of it just looked like bars, just looked like bars connected where the triangle lights were. 94 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,000 First I thought it was just three triangle lights connected to bars floating. 95 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 And then I could see it was pitch black inside and you could see these areas where the light was hitting. 96 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Okay. 97 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 And I'm just really wondering, did anybody else report this because I just think I'm losing my mind? 98 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,000 No, I'm sure you're not losing your mind. Other people could have seen it and reported it off. 99 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Yeah, I don't see one. You know, I've seen stuff like this on TV and I say to myself, I don't believe in it, but I believe that those people really believe what they're saying. 100 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 They're convinced. 101 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Okay. Now, how old were your children? 102 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 My son, the one that saw it, he'll be 12 next month. He's 11. 103 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Okay. 104 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 And my daughter and her girlfriend are both 14. 105 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Okay. 106 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 What was your age? 107 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 My age is 36. 108 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Did I get your mailing address? 109 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Edwards Air Force Base. 110 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Okay. 111 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 California. 112 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Okay. And where did you get our number? 113 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Well, I had to stop the SP gate because I was just shaking. I was just crying, shaking. I couldn't believe this. 114 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:18,000 And they had me there for a good 15 minutes calling different posts and who was flying, what kind of test patterns, all this. 115 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Call Radar and see if they'd picked up anything and then they gave me this number and said that I could call this number and report this to them. 116 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Okay. 117 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 They didn't know what else to tell me. 118 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Did you, by any chance, sketch the object? 119 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,000 You know what? I had my kids and us and yes, and we all drew pretty much the same thing. 120 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Okay. 121 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,000 The cluster of lights out front first and then this thing in front of the van. 122 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Okay. 123 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 But you know, it was huge. This thing was huge. 124 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 I couldn't believe how big this thing was and it was just there. 125 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Okay. 126 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Would you talk to one of our representatives if we could get someone in there? 127 00:08:53,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Um, yeah, I would tell someone because I think, you know, I would like to know if there's a support group or something because I'm scared. 128 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 My kids slept together last night. They were scared. They put the dog in the room with them. 129 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Okay. 130 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 I mean, this is just crazy. I'm walking around the house here with the dog with me in every room. 131 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Okay. 132 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 I mean, this is very- 133 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 You don't have anything to be afraid of. 134 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Why do these things not come back and visit you or something? 135 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Very, very seldom do people have secondary experiences. 136 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Can you- you account for out of your time on the road and went to a family? 137 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Oh, yes. That's another thing. My girl said that sometimes people lose time. 138 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Uh-huh. 139 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 It was about eight ten and by the time we got to Rosemann, it was eight twenty. 140 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 So that would be about ten minutes. 141 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 If we maybe even lost a minute, I don't even think and not even a minute. 142 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Okay. 143 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 I think we lost no time at all. 144 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Okay. 145 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,000 That's what scared the girls the most. They were thinking this thing had taken us up and 146 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,000 done stuff to us and they were saying, what time is it? What time is it? 147 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 And I said, it's eight- eight twenty-eight. 148 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 What time were we there? We saw that you think and I said, I think it was like eight fifteen, 149 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,000 eight- eight thirteen, eight fifteen, maybe eight ten. 150 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 I don't know. Something around that area. 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 I don't think we lost any time. 152 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Okay. 153 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Well, hang on to this pictures or the sketches and we'll see if we can't get somebody to 154 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 contact you.